July 27, 2006


MacRoundtable 2006.07.27 – 012

Filed under: Podcast — macroundtable @ 3:44 pm

Welcome to Episode 12 of the Mac Roundtable

This week we discuss Intels agressive chip release schedule and ponder Apples ability to keep up. We get into the hot off the presses development of the AMD ATI buyout and discuss potential ramifications for Apples Intel relationship. Our thoughts on the newest edition of the Mighty Mouse. Find out what products we like to keep our Mac portables and iPods safe. How do we go about evangelizing Apple and the Mac, plus the next installemnt in our discussion on Podcasting, recording.

Joseph Nilo from the MacPro Podcast was just back from a long trip and had to missed this one. But join hosts Steve Stanger from the The Mac Attack, Tim Verpoorten from MacReviewcast, Adam Christianson from the MacCast

Links mentioned in this weeks episode:

Tom Bihn Bags
STM Bags
MarWare iPod Case
Burning Monkey Solitaire (Freeverse)
iBiz (Igg Software)
Pixadex(Icon Factory)
CandyBar (Panic)
GarageBand (Apple)
SoundTrackPro (Apple)
Sound Soap (Bais)

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  1. Hi Guys, love the show – just thought I’d let you know your ‘Listen Now’ direct link is currently pointing at show #11.

    Comment by Rob — July 28, 2006 @ 4:56 am

  2. Fixed.


    Comment by themacattack — July 28, 2006 @ 5:16 am

  3. Integrated graphics from Intel are considered the extreme low end of video options in the PC world. There’s no difference in the Mac world either.

    AMD’s acquiring ATI will make no difference in that. Intel will NEVER have a competing graphics chip.

    NVidia, however, has always been in competition with ATI and that competition has driven the road map for both companies. AMD’s acquiring will not change that either.

    Apple would be insane to cow-tow to Intel over the graphics chipsets in high end systems. Intel will never have a desirable graphics chip for high end users (video, graphics, gamers, enthusiasts, etc.). Apple may make the choice to not provide ATI as a default but since the PCI-E/AGP bus doesn’t care about the label on the graphics card, then this is a non-issue.

    The only thing that could cause a Nvidia vs. ATI requirement is whether Apple’s logic boards support only Nvidia’s SLI or ATI’s Crossfire (dual card support) exclusively. Even then, the only difference would be that you could only run dual video cards with one or the other, but in a single video card, either vendor should work fine.

    Bottom line, video cards are user driven. There’s never been a point in Apple’s product line where they’ve dictated the use of certain video card. If the driver/firmware is there and the card fits the slot (both a function of the video card manufacturer) then you can use it in your Mac. It would be suicidal for Apple to dictate addons for their high end systems.

    Comment by Ron — July 28, 2006 @ 9:34 am

  4. Best show so far. Full of goodies! It started like a sprint, rather than some of the lollygagging previous starts.

    I want only to comment about your take on the Mighty Mouse. I’ve never owned a buttoned mouse but I bought the wireless version the moment it was announced so that I might find out what I had been missing. I haven’t got the hang of it yet since it just arrived today but I’m hoping it’ll be easier to use than your panel suggests it might be.

    My big quarrel with you is the SHAPE of the Apple’s mouse. It suits me perfectly. It’s similar to the original mouse which I loved (I’m a Mac user since the 128) and I ran into a lot of trouble the year they made it (as you wish it were) much higher than the present-day one. I developed spasms in my mid-back which practically disabled me for a year. I went to a lot of therapy which did the trick but after that I searched high and low til I found an original mouse. I’ve not had any problems since Apple began using the shape we have now.

    I don’t like my palm to rest on the mouse. I like a big space under my palm and I lightly use my fingertips to guide it. I use a lot of keyboard shortcuts and love contextual menus so probably I’ll find the buttons as annoying to use as you do, but please, please, please don’t suggest they muck about with the shape of it!

    Comment by Fortunella — July 28, 2006 @ 4:59 pm

  5. Excellent discussion. This is a perfect example of why the Mac Roundtable should be one of the top tech podcasts in iTunes.

    Regarding the mighty mouse…I had a big learning curve when switching to the mighty mouse from my 2 button PC mouse. Setting the right click context menu helped but having no physical feel when you click is a downer. And the price! I think it’s way overpriced.

    Comment by ChrisMtP — July 30, 2006 @ 4:57 pm

  6. Thanks for all the comments about the podcast. I agree with ChrisMtp. The Mac Roundtable should be one of the top tech podcasts on iTunes! 🙂 Who do I have to talk to to get that done?


    Comment by themacattack — July 30, 2006 @ 7:11 pm

  7. I love the show but I have to say that I think that you talk too much about the process of podcasting. I listen to the show mainly because of the Mac stuff not to learn how to podcast. Remember that there are other shows about that.


    Comment by Sebastian — July 30, 2006 @ 10:08 pm

  8. APPLE STICKERS!!! My girlfriend and I have been noticing a lot of PC notebook users with White Apple stickers on their machines. It’s like some kind of rebellion is starting. Bring it on!!

    Comment by James "Psy" Kocsis — August 1, 2006 @ 11:48 am

  9. Great show!

    But, let me just say, mice and keyboards are very personal, we all know that. But, I love my Mighty Mouse! I have both versions, and yes, they’re pricey, but it fits my hand perfectly, and I had no problems adapting to the buttons. The scroll ball, to me, is a big improvement over a big clicky wheel, and it scrolls both the X and Y axis, which makes my work easier.

    I’ve made it a habit to not recommend keyboards or mice to people, but to only give them some options. I find it becomes very personal and what works for one, may not work for another. So, I try not to “trash” someone elses preference. Look around… does everyone have the same hand size and finger lengths?

    I’m just saying it’s fine to express your opinion, but you may discourage others from trying what might be, to them, a fine product.

    Comment by Alan — August 1, 2006 @ 7:26 pm

  10. Regarding our comments on the Mighty Mouse, Adamn says that the symmetic shape is a problem. I doubt that Adam is left handed, if he was, he would know that symmetric is about the best you can hope for. That being said, I never tried the Mighty Mouse.

    Comment by Simon — August 4, 2006 @ 6:25 am

  11. Hi guys, thanks again for another great podcast. I was taking some notes and I wanted to use some of the things you use in your podcasts. I use Garageband, how can you tweak the average KMS or the Peak RMS in Garageband? I noticed that GB has a High and Low pass, any ideas what levels you use? I tried the default and low pass made my audio very clear and then I added high pass and I could barely hear my show any ideas? Thanks in advance for the help!

    Comment by Jon — August 4, 2006 @ 5:43 pm

  12. Love all your individual shows. I look forward to listening this one. Sorry, you don’t offer any other way of contacting you so I must leave a comment.

    I’ll check out the podcast when you offer the raw URL and not expect me to use iTunes, Odeo, or Yahoo! I use my own bash script that offers more options than iTunes like resumed downloading and individual updating schedules.

    Comment by Philo Kramer — August 4, 2006 @ 9:58 pm

  13. Philo – We mention our email in every show. macroundtable@gmail.com and you could always visit the show blog for the links we have discussed.

    Comment by themacattack — August 11, 2006 @ 8:20 am

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